Welcome to Primordial Dao Present Dao

A long-form conversation-style podcast about all-things Daoism.

Our conversations and interviews will discuss ancient and modern Daoist wisdom teachings, universal understandings, seasonal longevity and healing traditions, spiritual practices, relationship guidance, and profound insights on walking an authentic and meaningful path.

However you choose to walk it….

Episode One – Coming into Being

Part One

The origins and history of Daoism

Welcome to the show!

In the first episode, Michael and Alex will introduce each other and then discuss the history and origins of Daoism.

What is Daoism?

When and how did it start?

What do Daoists practice?

Part Two

The Practice of Xing Ming Shuang Xiu

Simply put, to study the Nature of Existence/Self and Nature of Life – equally and together


One’s Nature, Character, (Heart-centred Life)


Life, Existence, Destiny, or Fate


Learn or share equally between two participants or practices.


Study, Learn, or swim across a river with sacred teachings.

200-Hour Teacher Training

Beginning March 20, 2023

Learn the skills, practices, and principles necessary to safely and successfully guide others through several kinds of Qi Gong Classes.

The 200 Hour program includes three levels:

One- Embodied Awareness

Two – Traditional Forms and Applied Principles

Three – Inner Refinement

Welcome to the 200-Hour Qi Gong Teacher Training Program

New Book!!!

Beginning Your Qi Gong Healing Journey

A 300-page deep dive into the healing potential of Qi Gong practice, as well as a ten-week, guided personal practice.

This eBook will help you find out what Qi Gong practices feel just right for you!


Pre-order your copy NOW!
The new book is LAUNCHING February 4, 2023
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